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what i do is the same way that tip o'neill and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. ronald reagan laid out the principles he was going to foster, lower tax rates, broaden the base, you said the same thing. you're going to simplify the tax code, broaden the base. those are my principles, i want to bring down the tax burden on middle income families. i'm going to work together with congress and say what are the various ways we can bring down deductions? one way is to have a single number. make up a number, $25,000, $50,000, anybody can have deductions up to that amount. and then the deductions disappear after that you could follow bowles-simpson and do it deduction by deduction. and make differences that way. there are alternatives to accomplish the objectes i have. we need to bring down rates, broaden the base, simplify the code and create incentives for growth. with regard to health care, you had remarkable details with regard to my pre-existing condition plan. you obviously studied up on my plan. i do deal with people with preexisting conditions, that's part of my h
what i do is the same way that tip o'neill and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. ronald reagan laid out the principles he was going to foster, lower tax rates, broaden the base, you said the same thing. you're going to simplify the tax code, broaden the base. those are my principles, i want to bring down the tax burden on middle income families. i'm going to work together with congress and say what are the various ways we can bring down deductions? one way is to have a single...
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. >> al gore: i think the single best line is when ronald reagan said i'm not going to make an issue of age and hold my opponent's age against him. great good humor, funny, but it ended the race. >> cenk: yeah, to the point we were discussing earlier about substance, you know, one of the most memorable moments was when george hw bush looked at his watch. here we go. >> i'm jim lehrer and i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee, and form massachusetts governor mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate as the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15 minute segments. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects but i made the final selections and for the record they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments will be three on the economy and one each on heal
. >> al gore: i think the single best line is when ronald reagan said i'm not going to make an issue of age and hold my opponent's age against him. great good humor, funny, but it ended the race. >> cenk: yeah, to the point we were discussing earlier about substance, you know, one of the most memorable moments was when george hw bush looked at his watch. here we go. >> i'm jim lehrer and i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama...
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what i do is the same way tip o'neill and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. he said he was going to lower tax rates. he said he was going to broaden the base. you've said the same thing. you're going to simplify the tax code, broaden the base. those are my principles, i want to bring down the tax burden on middle income families. and i'm going to work together with congress to say okay, what are the various ways we could bring down deductions, for instance. one way, for instance, would be to have a single number. make up a number. $25,000, $50,000. anybody can have deductions up to that amount. and then that number disappears for high income people. that's one way one could do it. one could follow bowles simpson as a model and take deduction by deduction and make differences that way. there are alternatives to accomplish the objective i have, which is to bring down rates broaden the base, simplify the code and create incentives for growth. and with regards to health care
what i do is the same way tip o'neill and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. he said he was going to lower tax rates. he said he was going to broaden the base. you've said the same thing. you're going to simplify the tax code, broaden the base. those are my principles, i want to bring down the tax burden on middle income families. and i'm going to work together with congress to say okay, what...
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that's not the way -- that ronald reagan negotiated. that's know the way i have ever negotiated. >> greta: you imagine president clinton, his name came up twice with president obama, using him as an example. should he -- is that a fair comparison, comparing himself with president clinton? >> well, as you know, president clinton has a very good approval rating. but to compare what he has done in our failure in this fiscal cliff and sequestration wees are facing to what president clinton did, after he lost in the off-year lec elections, he sat down with bob dole and newt gingrich and they reform welfare and put themselves on a path to a balanced budget. the same way that ronald reagan did with tip o'neill. they sat down and they negotiated. this president doesn't do that. and that's, in my view, something that has caused huge frustration amongst the american people. why last night he said, well... the reason why we don't go across the aisle is because have you to say no sometimes? is that the basis of it? i don't think so. >> greta: you k
that's not the way -- that ronald reagan negotiated. that's know the way i have ever negotiated. >> greta: you imagine president clinton, his name came up twice with president obama, using him as an example. should he -- is that a fair comparison, comparing himself with president clinton? >> well, as you know, president clinton has a very good approval rating. but to compare what he has done in our failure in this fiscal cliff and sequestration wees are facing to what president...
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what i do is the same way ronald reagan worked some years ago. he laid out the principles he was going to foster. he said he will lower tax rates. he said he would broaden the base. you have said the same thing. will simplify the tax code, broaden the base. i will work together with congress to say, ok, what are the various ways we can bring down deductions. one way would be to have a single number. make up a number. $25,000, $50,000. anybody could have deductions for that amount. that is one way that could do pt. one could follow bulls-ssmpson as a model. -- bowles-simpson as a model. simplify the code and create incentives for growth. with regard to health care, you have remarkable details with resort -- with regards to my pre-existing condition plan.+ you have obviously studied my plan. i do have a plan with people with pre-existing conditions. as part of my health care plan. what we did with massaccusetts is a model for the nation state by state. i said the federal government taking over the health care for the entire nation and whisking asid
what i do is the same way ronald reagan worked some years ago. he laid out the principles he was going to foster. he said he will lower tax rates. he said he would broaden the base. you have said the same thing. will simplify the tax code, broaden the base. i will work together with congress to say, ok, what are the various ways we can bring down deductions. one way would be to have a single number. make up a number. $25,000, $50,000. anybody could have deductions for that amount. that is one...
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when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles he was going to foster. he said he was going to lower tax rates. he said he was going to broaden the base. have you said the same thing, simplify the tax code, broaden the base. i want to bring down the tax burden on middle-income families. i will work with congress to say, what are the ways to bring down deductions? one way would be to have a single number -- make up a number, 25,000 -- 50,000, anybody can have deductions up to that amount. and that number disappears for high-income people. one could follow bowl etion-simpson and make deductions that way. there are alternatives to the objective i have, which is to bring down rate, broaden the base, simplify the code and create incentives for growth. with regard to health care, you have remarkable details with regard to my pre-existing plan. you studied up on my plan. i do have a plan for pre-existing conditions. what we did in massachusetts is a model for the nation -- state by state. i said that at that time. the federal government taking over health care
when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles he was going to foster. he said he was going to lower tax rates. he said he was going to broaden the base. have you said the same thing, simplify the tax code, broaden the base. i want to bring down the tax burden on middle-income families. i will work with congress to say, what are the ways to bring down deductions? one way would be to have a single number -- make up a number, 25,000 -- 50,000, anybody can have deductions up to that...
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remember, that was his great act, and ronald reagan before him did the same thing. bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally has been coasting on this notion, this sort of populist aura that hoverses around them and he's the opposite, you know. he's -- i was reading this great story in "rolling stone" the other day by matt taibbi about how mitt romney is like all of the terrible movie villains of the last 30 years. you know, he's the rich fraternity boy that's such a snob to the guys in animal house, right? you go down the list of movie villains and this is the kind of guy. perfectly, well coifed executives who fire everybody. >>
remember, that was his great act, and ronald reagan before him did the same thing. bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't...
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when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was my to foster. he said he was going to lower tax rates. he said he was going to broaden the base. you said the same thing, you are going to simplify the tax code and broaden the base. those are my principles. i'm going to work together with congress is to say, ok, what are the various ways we could bring down deductions, for instance? one way, for instance, would be to have a single number. make up a number. $50,000. anybody can have deductions up to that amount. one could follow bowles-simpson as a model and take deduction by deduction and make differences that way. there are alternatives to accomplish the objective i have, which is to bring down rates, broaden the base, simplify the code, and create incentives for growth. with regards to health care, you had remarkable details with a request to my pre-existing condition plan. you obviously studied up on my plan. in fact, i do have a plan that deals with people with pre- existing conditions. and what we did in massachusetts is a model for the natio
when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was my to foster. he said he was going to lower tax rates. he said he was going to broaden the base. you said the same thing, you are going to simplify the tax code and broaden the base. those are my principles. i'm going to work together with congress is to say, ok, what are the various ways we could bring down deductions, for instance? one way, for instance, would be to have a single number. make up a number. $50,000....
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mitt romney, and i'm not comparing it to 1980 and ronald reagan being an appealing alternative, but jimmy carter, not a bad alternative. i think that could eat into the president's support and more than just the undecided voter support. what do you think? >> not necessarily. because what voters too often and we see this and a lot of data. they complain and gripe, especially well as down in the polls. when it comes down to it on election day they usually hold their nose, suck it up and vote for their party leader. that is why we have undecided voters. usually if you're a member of your party by election day you aren't going to vote for the guy neil: i know you do this in far more exhaustive detail that idea, but i am old and remember 1980 and to remember that the undecided voters at the time, jumped either ronald reagan or jimmy carter. it turns out a lot more did. i'm not saying that there is some truth to what you're saying. those who are leery of that party or the candidate of that party would jump, could jump if they are disenchanted enough with their own who choice or intrigued enough
mitt romney, and i'm not comparing it to 1980 and ronald reagan being an appealing alternative, but jimmy carter, not a bad alternative. i think that could eat into the president's support and more than just the undecided voter support. what do you think? >> not necessarily. because what voters too often and we see this and a lot of data. they complain and gripe, especially well as down in the polls. when it comes down to it on election day they usually hold their nose, suck it up and...
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ronald reagan has been working for the american medical association in the early '60s to fight medicare. he didn't have an alternative plan. he was against medicare. and second of all, the question put by that young african-american woman to george bush senior was how does the federal deficit affect you personally. instead of answering the question in general terms, how's the bad economy affected me, he sort of vetted the person. the woman in front of him. clinton ignored the particularity of the question and said, i know what you're talking about. has the economic slowdown affected you personally, let me tell you how it's affected me as governor of arkansas. so what you do is, if you're smart, you engage your emotional iq, not your intellectual iq. this is not a logical event that's going to happen in the next hour and a half, it's about emotions, and how the smart one uses his or her intelligence to get through the static of the intelligence. reagan would have said "there you go again" no matter what carter said. it was a brilliant line. he basically said, you're clinging to office an
ronald reagan has been working for the american medical association in the early '60s to fight medicare. he didn't have an alternative plan. he was against medicare. and second of all, the question put by that young african-american woman to george bush senior was how does the federal deficit affect you personally. instead of answering the question in general terms, how's the bad economy affected me, he sort of vetted the person. the woman in front of him. clinton ignored the particularity of...
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when ronald reagan said, there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start, but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of tick off, oh, that was the prepared zinger. did he bring it off? >> oh, yeah. >> the other thing is he's not very good at this. i mean, you know, i know they don't want him to be spontaneous because he'll say the wrong thing, but delivering a prepared funny line seems to me to be one of the hardest tasks, probably even harder than telling us what's in his tax plan. >> as a journalist, joan, i want your view. suppose you're watching the debate, as we all will be, everybody is going to be watching wednesday night, and you see what is obviously a prefab zinger that doesn't even
when ronald reagan said, there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start, but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of...
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ronald reagan and bill clinton. say your opponent's record is bad and still be optimistic about america and i think both of these guys forget to think that the president's a little better on it. romney is an optimistic guy. he will be better for himself if he focuses on optimism. >> talk about strength. >> the republican strategist talks about this all the time. the moments that matter are moments where you do something to show that you're a strong leader and either by implication or a frontal attack the other person is not as strong. reagan and clinton are masters of this, through their demeanor, ceasing the moment, it will be played over and over again of strength, not weakness. >> my real prickish question, a difficult one. the alien from abroad, and he looked at it and said, who is that guy? and he said, it's romney. it seems to be out of the normal conduct of people thaw meet. it seems odd. >> all of the polls have said two to one that they expect obama to outperform romney. so in that sense if he gets up there
ronald reagan and bill clinton. say your opponent's record is bad and still be optimistic about america and i think both of these guys forget to think that the president's a little better on it. romney is an optimistic guy. he will be better for himself if he focuses on optimism. >> talk about strength. >> the republican strategist talks about this all the time. the moments that matter are moments where you do something to show that you're a strong leader and either by implication...
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we cover elections, not economics generally, but ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2% because he said it was the morning in america. optimism was what he sold. he was able to say 7.2% is great news, great news. he got re-elected with 49 states. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2%. what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and, oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn close to reagan's number. >> i think how this works with the president's narrative is that we're moving in the right direction, don't change -- you know, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that demonstrably didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that said the economy is moving in the right direction, and i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. and much more than levels of variables like the level of the employment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' views on the economy. >> i think it was i
we cover elections, not economics generally, but ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2% because he said it was the morning in america. optimism was what he sold. he was able to say 7.2% is great news, great news. he got re-elected with 49 states. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2%. what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and, oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn close to...
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i believe in the ronald reagan approach -- if i can finish my answer, you should not feed the beast. let's put the beast on a diet and spend a little less money. >> did the department of homeland security, does that count as feeding the beast or not? >> i have no contract with the department of homeland security. one more try in an attack, doesn't work. never done a contract with the department of homeland security. don't have one planned. don't get any money from the government. >> sure. >> you can try all those attacks that you want. i do private business with private individuals. get no money from the government. want to try another one? >> mayor giuliani, if you're inviting it. the difference is that under mitt romney, rich people will pay a lot less in taxes than what they would pay under president obama, because president obama would let the bush tax cuts expire for higher earning individuals only. so rich people pay less under romney and more under obama. that is the ultimate answer, right? >> the ultimate answer is if either one get their proposals through. and one of the way
i believe in the ronald reagan approach -- if i can finish my answer, you should not feed the beast. let's put the beast on a diet and spend a little less money. >> did the department of homeland security, does that count as feeding the beast or not? >> i have no contract with the department of homeland security. one more try in an attack, doesn't work. never done a contract with the department of homeland security. don't have one planned. don't get any money from the government....
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the incumbent was ronald reagan and got his clock cleaned by mondale. trying to win the first debates against their challengers was 0-3. the next time an incumbent president is facing a challenger is 1992. the incumbent president is george h.w. bush. his major party challenger is a young man from arkansas. there's also this other guy with the big ears and it's the other guy with the big ears who wins the first debate. >> the day after, victory for perot. clinton hold his own. trouble for the president. there's no one scorecard for determining who won and who lost last night, but a consensus does seem to be emerging. ross perot, the star of the night because no one knew what to expect. bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wiwisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >
the incumbent was ronald reagan and got his clock cleaned by mondale. trying to win the first debates against their challengers was 0-3. the next time an incumbent president is facing a challenger is 1992. the incumbent president is george h.w. bush. his major party challenger is a young man from arkansas. there's also this other guy with the big ears and it's the other guy with the big ears who wins the first debate. >> the day after, victory for perot. clinton hold his own. trouble for...
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ronald reagan made a deal with tip o'neil. it was for tax increases and spending control. >> hurt republicans when they ran for office, didn't it? >> they got the tax increases. they didn't get spending cuts. he got the tax increases ch he didn't get the spending cuts. >> do you think it was a governing mistake. if he gets elected president, is he going to regret that? >> i think the crisis we face financially is so severe that all the discussion of finances last night, you can fergs. we don't have the money to expand the military. we don't have the money you have to overhaul sos to keep it sound. >> he wants to spend more money in the military. do you think that's a mistake? >> the money isn't there. >> david, this is where the obama campaign wants to go. it's saying, yes, we lost on style. but romney made himself -- mean, senator, it's a complicated argument he's making on these issues. >> absolutely. and it's going to make sense after the the election. we're facing a fiscal cliff. all the consumers will come into play. and
ronald reagan made a deal with tip o'neil. it was for tax increases and spending control. >> hurt republicans when they ran for office, didn't it? >> they got the tax increases. they didn't get spending cuts. he got the tax increases ch he didn't get the spending cuts. >> do you think it was a governing mistake. if he gets elected president, is he going to regret that? >> i think the crisis we face financially is so severe that all the discussion of finances last night,...
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one of the most famous lines, back to your point, about clever lines was ronald reagan saying, i am not going to let my opponent's youth and inexperience count against him. everybody broke up laughing because he had taken the issue of his own age and turned it over and if you look at walter mondale's eyes, he knows he has lost the election and reagan has ended that debate. sometimes, it does come down to a magic moment that comes to characterize the whole debate. >> greta: you will watch our midnight show "on the record," the special? >> absolutely. i want to find out what you said about it. >> greta: speaker, i hope i don't call the race. who knows, i am -- i can make that blunder. >> i am going to watch you tomorrow night and tweet. >> greta: thank you. >> straight ahead, just revealed video from president obama from 2007, the unedited speech is parking controversy. you will hear from congressman allen west. what he has to say, next. and donald trump call its one of the greatest trades ever. what is the big trade? what does it have to do with the presidential debate in donald trump is
one of the most famous lines, back to your point, about clever lines was ronald reagan saying, i am not going to let my opponent's youth and inexperience count against him. everybody broke up laughing because he had taken the issue of his own age and turned it over and if you look at walter mondale's eyes, he knows he has lost the election and reagan has ended that debate. sometimes, it does come down to a magic moment that comes to characterize the whole debate. >> greta: you will watch...